How to Destroy old Mac hard drives to prevent data retrieval

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Will using a magnetic degausser scramble the data contents of the platters? If yes, how strong of a degausser is needed? Will a super strong magnet work?
 

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What works best on those old hard drives is a large hammer. Just beat on the platters until they can no longer be used. Then toss the drive. No need for a degausser.
 

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Judicious application brute force to the rescue. As a side benefit you get a little exercise and let off a little steam. :)
 
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What works best on those old hard drives is a large hammer. Just beat on the platters until they can no longer be used. Then toss the drive. No need for a degausser.

Agreed. BFH was the first thing that came to my mind. I have a geology hammer with a pick at one end. Works very well to neutralize old hard drives. :cool:
 
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Even better I have an old tomahawkI used to use with great delight in the platter disk days.
 

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My first thought too, primitive but very effective a BFH works every time. :ROFLMAO:
 
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I did this when I moved from Microsoft to Apple in 2012 (never looked back!). However, I have a question. If a trade-in allowance is on offer from Apple when buying a new Mac, would it be safe to take that route if the old Mac were reset it to Factory settings? Reading the blurb on the Apple website (U.K.) it says 'We’ll give you a pre-paid trade-in kit or you can take it to an Apple Store'. I am not sure where the trade-in Mac goes when using the pre-paid route as It also mentions an Apple Trade-in Partner. So, safe to trade in from a privacy and security angle?
 

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You can also contact your local recycling place to see if they have a hard drive shredder that will destroy the drives and then do the right thing with the circuit board as opposed to toss it in the trash.
 

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I've used the brute force method many times. I've used a hammer...but usually since I like to take things about (and save the hardware for future use)...I open up the hard drive...extract the HD platters...and I bend them up (hands & hammer)...until they are definitely not useable anymore.

This is for 3.5" hard drives...where the HD platters are usually made of metal. 2.5" hard drives are actually easier to destroy (but can be more of a safety issue). 2.5" platters are made from a glass or ceramic material...and will shatter when broken/struck with a hammer...creating sharp pointy shards of material which can cut & fly everywhere. Thus need to be more careful when destroying 2.5" hard drive platters via the brute force method.

Nick

p.s. I also like to save the rare earth magnets inside 3.5" hard drives...they are very strong for their size...and make great refrigerator magnets!:)
 
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This is all great to hear, BUT what about my question on trading in with Apple as above? Thanks.
 

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This is all great to hear, BUT what about my question on trading in with Apple as above? Thanks.

My personal opinion...taking advantage of the Apple trade-in program (trading in an old Mac as part of a purchase of a new Mac)...is not the best financial move. Firstly the old Mac needs to be "new enough" to qualify for the program.

Secondly...the trade-in amount Apple gives you is below market value (can do better/much better on Craig's List or eBay).

The Apple Trade-in program does make it easier to dispose of the old computer...but you take a pretty good financial loss by doing it.

Nick
 

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This is all great to hear, BUT what about my question on trading in with Apple as above? Thanks.

The trade-in program only gives you any money (less than market value) for a fairly recent Apple hardware. If you have say, a 2012 Macbook Pro, that is not going to yield you any money but they will take it and safely recycle it.

However, the OP here is looking destroy just old drives and Apple doesn't provide a service to just recycle specific components.
 
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The trade-in program only gives you any money (less than market value) for a fairly recent Apple hardware. If you have say, a 2012 Macbook Pro, that is not going to yield you any money but they will take it and safely recycle it.

However, the OP here is looking destroy just old drives and Apple doesn't provide a service to just recycle specific components.
Hi Nick and Ashwin. Yes I appreciate the OP's position. Maybe I should start a new thread and ask the question again.
 

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Hi Nick and Ashwin. Yes I appreciate the OP's position. Maybe I should start a new thread and ask the question again.

No need to start a new thread. Nick answered your question and so did Ashwin.
 
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Too late Charlie. New thread done and Nick has expanded on his reply. Thank you
 

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Too late Charlie. New thread done and Nick has expanded on his reply. Thank you

No problem. Just glad to see we have participation.

By the way, when I was employed by the US government doing computer repair at a large installation we first used a security wipe 10 times on old hard drives. After that they were sent to a depot where they were shredded.

An old saying from WWII: Loose lips sinks ships. :)
 
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I open up the hard drive...extract the HD platters..

I just thought I would mention a reminfer to rescue and save those lovely super strong magnets while dismantling a spinner drive, and lots of good uses for them...

Just keep them away from young children... ;)


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...If a trade-in allowance is on offer from Apple when buying a new Mac, would it be safe to take that route if the old Mac were reset it to Factory settings? ...So, safe to trade in from a privacy and security angle?

You can MAKE it safe by securely erasing your hard drive.

There used to be a Secure Erase option in Disk Utility that would allow you to erase your hard drive with as many as 7 passes, making it impossible for any new owner to resurrect your data from a wiped hard drive. Ever since Mac OS El Capitan (10.11), that feature has been removed from Disk Utility (Apple was afraid that users might use this feature on an SSD, which would the lifespan of an SSD.) NEVER SECURELY ERASE AN SSD!

You can still do a Secure Erase using the Terminal:


or with a utility program:

BitRaser File Eraser ($30)

 
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If you had enabled whole drive encryption (i.e. FileVault) then you don't have to worry about destroying the drive, since the encrypted data is completely inaccessible without the password (you do use a strong password, right?)

Also, some hard drives use glass platters that can be broken just by dropping the drive from several feet or just throwing it on the ground. The best way to know is to just try it, since if it works you'll hear the bits of broken glass if you shake the drive. I've found it works better if you manage to get the drive to land flat on the ground, since that's the most vulnerable direction of the platters. In general it's pretty hard to degauss a hard drive without equipment specifically designed to do that. Strong magnets and CRT degaussing coils won't be strong enough to work.

Finally, if you can attach the drive to some other computer via an adapter, or even mount it in some other computer via the SATA connection you can use any of a number of drive wiping utilities to securely wipe the drive. One commonly recommended utility is "DBAN" ("Darik's Boot and Nuke"), which is a free bootable Linux that has a tool for performing a variety of data wiping passes. This can be a slow process depending on the size of the drive, but you don't really need to do that many passes of even just zero data, since the density of the data tracks on modern hard drives makes it extremely challenging to recover data even after a single pass of zeros. The generation of "random" data for the wipe passes is not the slow part of the process, however, so it generally doesn't hurt to enable that option. Three passes of random data is more than enough for the typical user's hard drive.

Again, this problem goes away if you enable whole drive encryption, so that's a good feature to enable going forward.
 
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Patrick, being an ex IBM hardware service engineer I have the correct tool for the job. It's a calibrated watchmakers 4lb lump hammer, but only for use on the platters as I use the magnets in my workshop to secure all sorts on items to the side of my lathe/band saw/pillar drill/etc. They work a treat and are fairly safe for young children as it would take a very determined little-un to swallow one. :))

Edit : - I forgot to add that the bearings are about as smooth as you can ever get.
 

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