iPhoto 9.5.1

[knighstalker]

Hello, I am a long time Mac user but new to this forum. Because I don't like unstable OS and App releases I usually trail behind on upgrades. As Apple supports its current OS and the 2 previous versions, I am currently using Mavericks. Unfortunately I did not keep up with and download the different updates to iPhoto. I had purchased the disk based version of iLife '11 and have version 9.4.3 of iPhoto. When I moved up to Mavericks, I wrongly thought I needed version 9.6.1 of iPhoto. I was able to get this from a local Apple reseller here were I live. However, that version is for Yosemite not Mavericks. I need version 9.5.1 of iPhoto. Unfortunately the Apple reseller did not have this version. Obviously I can not get it from the Mac App Store or Apple. Can anyone help me with this, please?

 

[MacInWin]

Obviously I can not get it from the App Store or Apple.

Do you mean that you went to the Mac App Store and looked for an update to iPhoto and there was none there? And if so, why can't you go back to the same Apple reseller from whom you got 9.6.1 and ask for 9.5.1? I was under the impression that if you are running Mavericks, you should be able to continue to update Mavericks' versions of Apple apps until Mavericks is no longer supported.

 

[knighstalker]

Do you mean that you went to the Mac App Store and looked for an update to iPhoto and there was none there? And if so, why can't you go back to the same Apple reseller from whom you got 9.6.1 and ask for 9.5.1? I was under the impression that if you are running Mavericks, you should be able to continue to update Mavericks' versions of Apple apps until Mavericks is no longer supported.

Sorry, I should have stated that the Apple reseller did not have this version. As for Mavericks support, I believe it's just for the operating system itself. I checked Apple Support Downloads and they only have version 9.4.3. The App Store itself simply says it's not available, this includes 9.6.1 also, in the US store. I tried deleting 9.4.3 and reopening the App Store and looked for it again to no avail. Apple itself wants me to upgrade to Photos but I wish to stick with iPhoto for now.

 

[MacInWin]

Ok, that information makes it a bit more clear. I am not an iPhoto or Photos user, so I'll defer to those who are to chime in, but normally, if you are running an older, but still supported version of the OS, then Apple apps that are for that version are also supported. Maybe that changed with the release of Photos to replace iPhoto, but I do know that Mavericks users could get to the latest version of iPhotos even after El Cap was released. Don't know why you can't.

One solution could be to move up to Yosemite, if you have the installer for it. Actually El Cap is pretty good, too, and is an even quicker version Yosemite, IMHO.

 

[chas_m]

If you have iPhoto 9.6.1, I'd suggest you move up to Yosemite or El Capitan if you can get it.

That said, Photos is perfectly fine. It's more of a re-arranging of the furniture than anything really different all that different, and once you play around with it for a while you'll be able to transition from iPhoto to Photos pretty painlessly.

 

[knighstalker]

Ok, that information makes it a bit more clear. I am not an iPhoto or Photos user, so I'll defer to those who are to chime in, but normally, if you are running an older, but still supported version of the OS, then Apple apps that are for that version are also supported. Maybe that changed with the release of Photos to replace iPhoto, but I do know that Mavericks users could get to the latest version of iPhotos even after El Cap was released. Don't know why you can't.

One solution could be to move up to Yosemite, if you have the installer for it. Actually El Cap is pretty good, too, and is an even quicker version Yosemite, IMHO.

Yeah for the most part I've found that Apple does keep apps around for specific versions of their OS's, like Snow Leopard, but there are a few instances like iPhoto where they don't. iPhoto 9.4.3 itself has the ability to check for updates and even tells me that 9.5 is available to update to. However when I click on "Open Software Update" it redirects me to the App Store and once again I'm told it's not available in the US store.

As far as moving up to Yosemite or El Capitan, I think I'll just hang back until Apple comes out with Yellowstone, Shasta, or whatever they decide to call the next OS! ;D

 

[knighstalker]

I know someone somewhere has a 9.5.1 dmg archived. If it magically appears in my email, so be it!

 

[MacInWin]

You might try calling Apple support to see why you can't get to the 9.5.1 download. If iPhoto says it's available, it should be there for you somewhere. But again, El Cap is pretty solid and by most reports Photos is, as chas_m says, most a rearrangement of where things are, not a change in WHAT those things are.

 

[knighstalker]

I'm also concerned about performance issues with the newer OS's on my late 2009 27'' iMac. Although it's holding up quite well for now. This is probably because I decided to get the one with the i7 chip!

 

[chas_m]

Provided you have a decent amount of HD space and a decent amount of RAM, I would not be AT ALL concerned about a 2009 i7 iMac running the latest and greatest. Yosemite and El Capitan actually use FEWER resources than the OS versions that came immediately before them.

 

[knighstalker]

I am starting to rethink my position on staying 2 OS iterations back. When I finally upgraded to Mavericks when El Capitan was released, I felt that my Mac seemed snappier. However, I did just have a 2 TB Seagate hybrid drive installed. This, ironically, replaced a failing replacement Seagate drive for a supposed faulty Seagate drive. It lasted about half as long as the original drive that was still working when I had it replaced! I only replaced it because it was supposedly part of a defective batch of Seagate hard drives that Apple was replacing for free. Anyway beyond the perception that my Mac seems rejuvenated, I haven't had it lock up coming out of sleep mode or the screen saver. Also, Safari 9.0.2 is light years ahead of Safari 6.2.8 as far as performance goes. Before the upgrade, I had to periodically restart my Mac to clear the RAM as it's 12 GB would slowly fill up and not clear out after quitting Safari several times. Also 6.2.8 would take what seemed like forever to load and quite often I would have to reload my open tabs. There again my old hard drive was 1 TB and it was like about 80 GB away from filling up! However after I had the 2 TB hybrid drive installed, I initially reloaded it with the backup I had made from my old hard drive. This of course utilized Mountain Lion and I experienced a lot of the same issues with Mountain Lion on the 1 TB hard drive.

When its all said and done though, I think I'll stick with Mavericks for maybe a month or two before I possibly migrate on to Yosemite. With that being said I'd still like to see if I can get a non-torrent version of iPhoto 9.5.1!

 

[chas_m]

No, really you don't. In addition to being illegal, the 9.6.1 version is the one you want.

Also, Yosemite is no longer an option. El Capitan only.

There's nothing wrong with being a version or two behind the latest version, but it's dangerous to get much beyond that. Apple only supports the last three OS releases with security updates (and other kinds of updates), so that's Yosemite, Mavericks, and Mountain Lion. I thought Mavericks was a very good release, so that's a good place to be for a little while yet, but still the 9.6.1 update is the one you want. Downgrading to 9.5.1 will screw you when you do move on (and yes, El Capitan is a big improvement on Mavericks IMO, particularly in the areas you mentioned).

If you want iPhoto to keep working for the time being (ie, you want to transition to Photos at your own pace rather than be forced), you want iPhoto 9.6.1.