I think my Mac Pro has just died. Help/advice needed please

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Yes, it's all a bit unreal TBH. I've now got a very quiet, well-behaved machine, but I've still no idea exactly what went wrong. I suspect it was an overheating problem on the now-failed memory sticks (that would explain why the fans went into jet engine mode just before I powered it off) but I've no idea WHY the memory on that riser went critical on me.
 

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Yes, that's right. Funny thing is, since I took out the dead RAM sticks and bunged in a set of spare 1Gig ones (so there's now a total of 16Gig in there), the old gal's been running sweet as a nut: quiet, snappy, responsive, the lot. Touch wood... ;)
Well, if you go through the posts in this thread that describe the problems, there is really nothing that indicates an issue with the core MacPro
 
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That's very reassuring to hear! :)
 

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Yes, it's all a bit unreal TBH. I've now got a very quiet, well-behaved machine, but I've still no idea exactly what went wrong. I suspect it was an overheating problem on the now-failed memory sticks (that would explain why the fans went into jet engine mode just before I powered it off) but I've no idea WHY the memory on that riser went critical on me.
Did you wear an anti-static wristband when you pulled out the RAM sticks?
Or at least discharged any static electricity that might have built up.
Also check the contact fingers and maybe chek each RAM in a different Mac to make sure these are all dead.
 
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Hi @krs - yes, I took all the usual precautions.

I'm sure the sticks are defunct, and it would be pretty hard for me to find a compatible machine to test them in - they're the ones with the chunky cooling fins on and I don't know anyone else with a 2008 Mac Pro 3,1
 

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Hi @krs - yes, I took all the usual precautions.

I'm sure the sticks are defunct, and it would be pretty hard for me to find a compatible machine to test them in - they're the ones with the chunky cooling fins on and I don't know anyone else with a 2008 Mac Pro 3,1
It's just really odd (like you said) that four of them would go at the same time.
For your MacPro, I think Apple has some remote hardware diagnostic that a user can access to verify their system; I have never used it but this could increase your confidence level that your Mac isn't going to die tomorrow.
In any case, I think regular backups and/or Time Machine are a must and it alsowouldn't hurt to think about a replacement for your MacPro.
We have owned several dozen Macs over many, many years since the old System 6 days and I can't think of a single one where the logic/motherboard just dies (not that this doesn't happen).
In most caseswe ended up having to get a new Mac because the old one's macOS could not be upgraded to the level that supported some application software we needed and a few were soaked with coffee or pop which they didn't like.
 
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UPDATE. Have just tried to boot machine again. After several minutes of grey screen, it's now showing the flashing question mark folder. Oh s**t...
The question mark means your machine is not recognise OS thus HD. But I have solve once by force to update from USB bootable OS.
 
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Thank the lucky stars your data is safe. Obviously you've done all the right things there. (y)
Sadly it does sound like death is immanent so yes, a new device. What to get?
If you have lots of peripherals then probably a desktop is best but I love the portability of a Mac Book, especially if they need repair.
Refurbs aren't that cheap either even though the Intel models are superseded now with the silicon drive.
Considering your obvious experience and skills with the Mac might it be worth considering Amazon.

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I'm planning on getting an M1 when I return to Australia in a few weeks but thats only because i need the Apple Care coverage and reliability afforded by a new device or i would seriously consider the above myself.
Worth noting that a 1TB disk is around the same money for a Mac of this vintage and that extra space really does make a difference
 
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Sounds like bad RAM was the problem all along. But that's an old machine, and eventually more things will go wrong with it.
Given that you have keyboard, mouse, and monitor(s) in hand, I'd recommend an M1 Mini as a very affordable replacement that will likely offer vastly better performance.
 
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So disaster averted at least for now. Phew!
One of the things that always stopped me from using TM for backup was its inability to produce a bootable copy. In my trusty but modified old early 2009 MacPro (flashed to 5,1; 2TB NVME drive as boot drive; 2 x 3.46 CPUs) I've always used Carbon Copy Cloner to clone the boot drive nightly to an internal hard drive reserved purely for that task. It surely paid off when some 6 or 7 years ago I had a Barracuda boot drive shuffle off this mortal coil with no advance warning, Just replaced the drive, booted off the backup and restored from the CCC backup. It's my preferred backup strategy.
 

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Old Ted, me too. I have had the same experience you relate several times on different devices, CCC has been invaluable. Sadly this all changed with macOS Big Sur however I still perform data only CCC backups in macOS Monterey and rely on a bootable macOS installer in the event of an OS problem. This is not ideal but I will be replacing my old 2015 MBP with a new M1X this year and OS failure should be a thing of the past.
In the end so long as my data is safe all is well.
 
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Why not just buy one or two 2008 Mac Pros, hoping that they have had an easier life than yours? Many must have been put aside long ago to make way for something modern, and lain unused for years.
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I read all the comments and thought I'd relate my son's problem with his 2008 Mac Pro.
He called one day almost in tears and said dad, my puter's broke. :)
It would not boot at all so I looked inside and what I saw reminded me of a battle zone.
-or maybe a zombie castle. Thick dust everywhere. Thick oily dust. Thick brown dust.
Hanging from everywhere and the fan blades coated with it. It covered the boards as well.
Nothing will work if dust connects all the transistors, etc.
You cannot totally clean something like that by blowing it out with those convenient cans of air.
Years ago I found a computer cleaning kit that hooks up to a vacuum hose. It's something every computer owner should have. It has several little vacuum brushes.
It took an hour to get all the dust vacuumed and the old Mac worked perfectly.
Here I have to add that my son is low on the list of tidiness. He will spend hours playing video games versus 5 minutes 'cleanup'. He smokes weed and the smoke being pulled through the fans is what gives the dust the oily brown color. His big spaniel keeps his small house full of dust. I advise any of you who know of a similar situation to inform that person to vacuum their computer at least every 4 months.
 

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